topic Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away in Nest Thermostats

Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

Ramonster — Sun, 28 Nov 2021 09:09:59 GMT

Hi, I've installed my nest a few weeks ago. Basic things work, but I'm having issues getting the Home/Away functionality to work, which is the main reason I bought the device. What I want:

When I'm home, to follow the schedule
When I'm away, to never heat my home.

I thought this would've been very simple, but for some reasons my thermostat keeps on heating while I'm away.

The above screenshot was taken while the Nest app registered I was away

And I think I have the correct settings

Also here

Even my Google Home routines are set correct, I think

And it correctly displays as away.

Can someone help? What could I be doing wrong? Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Ramon

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

AnaM — Tue, 07 Dec 2021 14:45:40 GMT

Hey @Ramonster,

I'm sorry to hear Home/Away Assit is not working properly, but I'm here to help you. I'll need some screenshots from you to begin with, and then we'll troubleshoot based on what you have in the Settings:

Go to Settings> Home/Away Assist> What decides if you're home and take a screenshot.
Go to Settings> Home/Away Assist > Activity History and take a screenshot.
Go to Settings > Home/Away Assist > What decides if you’re home > You > Current status and take a screenshot both when you are at home and when you are away.
Go to Settings> Home Info> Address and check if it's correct.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

AlexD — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 17:02:04 GMT

Hi, I wanted to check in. Do you need any further assistance?

If so, make sure to let me know.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

Ramonster — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 20:52:38 GMT

Hi,

Thanks for the response. Here's my reply:

> Go to Settings> Home/Away Assist> What decides if you're home and take a screenshot.

> Go to Settings> Home/Away Assist > Activity History and take a screenshot.

> Go to Settings > Home/Away Assist > What decides if you’re home > You > Current status and take a screenshot both when you are at home and when you are away.

In the picture above: I have no idea why there are two rows in Current Status. The line mentioning Home has disappeared now. The blue censored line is my actual address. I'll make one while being away ASAP.
> Go to Settings> Home Info> Address and check if it's correct.
It is.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

AnaM — Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:00:42 GMT

Thank you for the pictures. Since you are using the thermostat's sensors as well please answer the following questions:

Do you have any pets?
Do you have any heating source close to the thermostat?
Are you signed in on multiple devices?
Do you leave your phone home when going out of the house?

Please go into the thermostat's Settings> Technical Info> Network and send me a picture of what shows there.

If you check the activity history, it should show you why the heating started, I would like a picture of that as well.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

CristianC — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:39:02 GMT

Hello again. Just checking in. How's it going with your thermostat?

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

Ramonster — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:57:23 GMT

Hi, sorry for my delayed reply. As currently my home is undergoing renovation and I'm physically somewhere else, I can't check how it's working. I'll get back to this in two weeks,

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

CristianC — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:59:25 GMT

Sure thing. Take all the time you need.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

AnaM — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 16:05:53 GMT

Hey @Ramonster,

How's it going with your thermostat?

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

Ramonster — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 19:07:01 GMT

Not good yet. I was away from home for a few weeks, but before and after my holiday it keeps on acting strange. Take 10 december for example. It was heating my home while I was away. As you can see multiple events were fired that day

It should listen to my phone for registering who's away.

If I try to find out why it thinks I was home, it tells me that I'm away on Home and here on My address (which I blurred out). Why do I get two addressess here? Is there any place I can find an overview of my homes? I should only have one.

Thanks in advance!

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

AnaM — Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:44:21 GMT

Hey @Ramonster,

I'm sorry about this. Can you try to disable the thermostat from 'What decides if you're home' and monitor it for a few days? That will help us isolate the issue. Also, could you send me a screenshot of the Nest app permissions in the phone's Settings?

To check your homes you can click on the icon in the upper lefthand corner of the screen of the Nest app and your homes will show at the bottom. You can switch between them like that.

Another thing to check is the address for each home by going into Settings> Home info> Address. Make sure the address and the pin showing on the map is correctly placed.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

AlexD — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:15:56 GMT

Hi, I wanted to check in. Did you try the suggested steps? Make sure to let me know if you need any further assistance.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

Ramonster — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 20:07:33 GMT

Hi. I've disabled Use mobile phone location, though this is the main reason I bought the product, but for the sake of finding a solution it's ok.

My home info shows my address as I expect it

I've looked at the app permissions. They seem ok.

I've looked at the top left corner. There it says I only have one home (which is correct). I still don't understand why it says I have multiple homes in the previous picture, because I don't recall setting that up, neither can I find it somewhere in the settings.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

CristianC — Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:18:30 GMT

Thanks for all the details, @Ramonster. Can I also take a look at your energy history? If you tap on a day and the time when the heating wasn't supposed to be on, it should tell you what turned it on.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

CristianC — Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:55:40 GMT

Hello again. Just checking in. Do you still need assistance?

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

Ramonster — Thu, 20 Jan 2022 15:12:22 GMT

Unfortunately my energy history doesn't go back any further than January 10, 2022. Not sure what happened there. Also, since I disabled Use mobile phone location, the problem doesn't happen anymore (but I've also lost a lot functionality with it). Should I turn it back on and try to reproduce the issue?

Cheers,

Ramon

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

Ramonster — Wed, 26 Jan 2022 22:17:08 GMT

Yes I do. I still don't understand why my Nest is heating my home while I'm away, and not heating my home when I am. I tried switching to the google home app, but without any luck. Take yesterday for example. Google home thought I was home

However, my thermostat was still at Eco

Whereas in reality, it should turn on my thermostat.

Nest app shows the same.

History shows no event of me getting home for some reason, but I was recognized as home in the app.

I hope all the screenshots I provided now lead to some sort of a solution.

Cheers,
Ramon

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

DragosC — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 16:12:51 GMT

Thank you very much for all the pictures and for the cooperation. In this case, the issues will need to be escalated to our senior support team for further reviews. Since we can't create a case here to escalate to them, you'll have to contact our live support team and provide them with all the information from here.

I know it sounds like we're passing you from one department to another, I wish there could be a way to help you here, but this is the only way your cases end up to our senior support team in time.

Thank you for understanding. They'll have you fill a template and send the case for further investigation.

Have a good one! Should anything else come up, let me know.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

DragosC — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 17:33:12 GMT

Hi there @Ramonster, I'm just following up on our last message. Did you get a chance to contact our support team? Keep us posted.

Re: Nest (3rd gen) starts heating home while I'm away

Ramonster — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:28:33 GMT

Hi. I haven't, as I'm away from home for the next two weeks. I did have a look at the support page, and the contact page recommended me to browse this topic first: https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Nest-Thermostats/Home-Away-Assist-returning-home-always-stuck-in-eco-mode/m-p/59715/page/16543210. This seems to be at least part of my problem. Would be nice if this gets picked up by the developers of Nest.