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Aux/Emergency Heat Blows Cold Air

CPow
Community Member

Hello,

 

I need some help with my newly installed Nest thermostat.

 

I have a heat pump with Aux/Emergency heating. When I first set the thermostat up a few weeks ago, it appeared to be working fine. I could turn the emergency heat on myself and the thermostat says it turns on auxiliary heat when it's having trouble heating. The problem is that when the auxiliary/emergency heat is on, the system only blows cold air and the house does not warm. I discovered this this morning in today's extra cold temperatures.

 

There was nothing at all wrong with the system until I switched to the new Nest thermostat, so it's clearly an issue with the Nest thermostat - presumably with the way I've set it up. Can anyone advise me how to resolve this?

 

Thank you in advance!

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CPow
Community Member

@CoolingWizard , I don't know if you're still on here, but I think you answered a similar question a little more than a year ago (https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Nest-Thermostats/Nest-3rd-Gen-Aux-Heat-Not-Working-cold-air/m...)

 

My system is different than that one, though, so I needed to repost , because it seems like the difference could cause a different answer.

CoolingWizard
Platinum Product Expert
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@CPow , please get me the make and model of the indoor and outdoor units.  I will look up the capabilities in the installers manuals. 

AC Cooling Wizard

NestPro, Google Pro, Mechanical Engineer and HVAC service company owner.

Thank you! The heat pump is a Trane 4TWR4030D1000AA (picture attached). This is my only heating unit. My (admittedly very limited) understanding is that the heating element is part of the heat pump.

 

And my thermostat is just a basic Nest. I've attached an image of its specifics from my Home app

CoolingWizard
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@CPow, to understand the heat pump you must understand first how a regular air conditioner works. What an air conditioner does is it uses a compressed refrigerant to capture heat inside the house and carry that heat in the refrigerant gas to the outdoor unit where is, it is expelled into the air. What a heat pump does is have a unique ability to change the direction of refrigerant so that it actually flows backwards, this captures the cold air and carries the cold air outside and gets rid of it.

The primary heat comes from the outdoor heat pump unit. There is secondary heat available if you’re indoor air handler has electric heat strips installed in it. This is called auxiliary heat. a heat pump is functioning as a heater, often it builds up ice on the outdoor coil. When this ice is detected, a defrost controller activates and causes the refrigerant flow to go into air conditioner mode long enough to pull enough heat out of the house to melt the ice on the outdoor coil. Once the ice is gone, the defrost control board returns control to the main control board and it goes back into heating mode. When the defrost control board takes over, it sends a signal to the indoor unit to activate the auxiliary heat and to slow the blower down to low speed. Your Auxiliary/Emergency heat strips need to  be tested.  Additionally, the basic Nest Thermostat does not support Emergency Heat function. Your auxiliary heat is the W2/AUX terminal.  

AC Cooling Wizard

NestPro, Google Pro, Mechanical Engineer and HVAC service company owner.

Hmm, okay. Do you happen to know if there's a way I can test the heat strips myself? Or do I have to get an HVAC professional out?

Also, I just want to verify about the emergency heat. My thermostat can be put into emergency heat mode, but you're saying that even though it offers the option and then says that it's running emergency heat, it can't actually do it?

CoolingWizard
Platinum Product Expert
Platinum Product Expert

@CPow ,  If your thermostat is wired correctly, you will have a wire on W2/AUX which is the Auxiliary Heat. If you also have a wire on * terminal of the Nest Learning Thermostat, you perhaps have Emergency Heat set up.  To test Emergency Heat, you need to turn the system mode it OFF. Then, activate Emergency Heat.  The control board will energize the heat strips and turn the blower fan on.  

Now then, if you have a W2/AUX wire and no wire on *, you can move the wire on W2/AUX to the * terminal and configure it as Emergency Heat, then perform the Emergency Heat test as described above. 

AC Cooling Wizard

NestPro, Google Pro, Mechanical Engineer and HVAC service company owner.

I suppose that if nothing else, I can disconnect the nest and re-hook up my old thermostat and see if it works with that