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Netflix and Chromecast Google TV 4K

Milan
Community Member

Hello,

I have a Sony Bravia Oled XR-A83J. Google TV is implemented in the TV operating system together with Netflix. Almost all movies and series on Netflix are in 21:9 aspect ratio, resulting in a black border on the top and bottom of the board.

This is detrimental to Oled panels because organic LEDs do not age the same, the TV itself does not allow the possibility of expanding the image in its menu.

I wonder if I will be able to expand the image to fill the entire screen if I buy a Chromecast with Google TV 4K, plug it into a TV and watch Netflix through it?

Thanks for the help!

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crogs
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Not asking you buy a new TV. Was kinda kidding there. But as others have mentioned, there are no settings on the ccgtv to adjust zoom and such. The TS4k has a basic scaling to zoom in and out. But honestly, you are greatly I've thinking this. You even said you watch sports which are 16:9 and filling the whole screen squashing any chance for burn in. You would have to be watching wider than 16:9 content every day without watching any other content whatsoever. And even Netflix will throw different ratios, so it's not always the same. So refer to my statement above of just enoy your TV.

On a side note, the link below will show you the things your TV does to prevent image retention. And it apparently says you can zoom/stretch and so on. Not sure if it covers your model. It's from a specific product page, but it's generic oled info. 

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/televisions-projectors-oled-tvs-android-/xbr-55a8h/articles...

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On a 4:3 screen a 21:10 aspect ratio will display with bigger black bands on top and bottom and on the 16:9 screen a 21:10 aspect ratio will display with smaller black bands on top and bottom.

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djtetei
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Ultrawide CinemaScope aspect ratio does not account for ILED or LCD technical problems because it is ment to be used in home theater projection screens.

However, if you can cope with some lose of lateral image content, you can use the TV aspect ratio settings to fill up the screen.

Milan
Community Member

Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately, there is no such option for Netflix on television itself.

Greetings!

Milan

djtetei
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The option do not have to be available specifically for Netflix.

It is a video settings that can be applied globally, for all displayed content.

Milan
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On this model, it is possible to set the aspect ratio only for SD video, for HD, Full HD and 4K it is definitely not possible.

djtetei
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I haven't studied the manual for this particular model, but if what you say it's true, in my opinion, it is poor software implementation and, if not updated and rectified, it's not worth keeping.

Aspect ratio settings are a must on any modern TV, regardless of input resolution.

It seems that some people at Sony need their minds to be pushed from their buts to their heads.

Are you shure that the TV model does not have a [Picture & Display] → [Screen] menu available?

It is a Bravia model, after all, and it should have it.

Milan
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djtetei
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It seems that this is the way the Sony system is designed to work with streaming applications, in order to preserve the original source image quality.

If, however, you send the video signal from an external source, you may be able to adjust the aspect ratio.

Personally, I never use the zoom functionality on any of my TVs because I want to retain the original aspect ratio of the material. Eventually, those panel pixels my fail in time, but until that happens it may be time for a TV upgrade also.

Milan
Community Member

When I put a video on a USB drive and play it with an integrated Sony player, it is not possible, but in Kodi, MX Player or VLC it can be done without any problems. Chromecast whit Google TV has integrated Netflix, it might be possible through it, but I would not like to throw away about € 100.

djtetei
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If you have a dvd or Blu-ray player available, you can connect it to the HDMI input of the TV and verify which aspect ratio options are available on the TV. I suspect that the only options available over HDMI will be 16:9 and 4:3, without any zoom.

Milan
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I only care about Netflix, I only watch movies and sports anyway. My https://minix.com.hk/products/neo-u9-h does not support Netflix, Chromecast with Google TV supports and is licensed. It is an option to buy it online and try it out. If the work I keep it, if it doesn’t work I give it back to the seller, I’m just not that kind of person.

djtetei
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In my opinion, you worry too much about the burn-in issue.

If you like to enjoy movies alot, simply take a brake after one or two anamorphic movies and play something in standard 16:9 aspect ratio.

Milan
Community Member

Thanks for the good advice.

crogs
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What dj said. Considering the vast majority of movies are done in wider aspect ratios than 16:9, if burn in were an issue, you would see widespread complaints about it on tech blogs, forums, reddit and so on.  You're very much overthinking it. Just enjoy your TV. And if I'm not mistaken, the later generation OLED TV's have anti burn in tech built in to prevent it. And if you can't take off your tinfoil hat long enough to enjoy watching the wider aspect content, you can pony up for a micro LED tv and alleviate your issues while retaining the inky blacks and get the plus of a much brighter image so you can keep that gorgeous picture in a lit up room as well. 🙂

Jeran
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Hey there,

Did you have any more questions or need any additional help? If not, I'll go ahead and lock up this thread in 24 hours.

Just checking up,
Jeran
 

Jeran
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

Hey there,

Did you have any more questions or need any additional help?

Thank you,
Jeran
 

crogs
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You seem to be quick to wrap up threads I've responded to and provided answers/solutions. Why don't you actually try responding to my thread that needs help? It's been a longstanding issue that needs to be solved. 

https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Chromecast/When-is-the-quot-Live-Channels-quot-app-going-to-a...

Milan
Community Member

Hey,

Please excuse me for not answering you right away.

Buying a micro LED TV is out of the question because I have a Sony Bravia Oled XR-A83J for barely three months.

Not to offend you: the picture on OLED is still superior, although for my “problem” it would be more pragmatic to buy a micro LED TV.

I mostly watch sports and movies on TV, and very little about everything else.

On my OLED there is Google TV with Netflix, but on it I can't change the aspect ratio from for example 21: 9 to 16: 9 to avoid black edges even at the expense of a worse image.

I received official information from Sony that organic LEDs age unevenly in the black bands on the screen.

So I was thinking of buying a Google Chromecast with TV 4K that has Netflix integrated, just like my TV.

I was hoping someone on the forum knew if it was possible to change the aspect ratio on Netflix on Google Chromecast with TV 4K.

I’m asking someone on the forum who has Google Chromecast with TV 4K and watches movies on Netflix to see if they can change the aspect ratios on the movie?

Thank you and best regards!
Milan

crogs
Community Member

Not asking you buy a new TV. Was kinda kidding there. But as others have mentioned, there are no settings on the ccgtv to adjust zoom and such. The TS4k has a basic scaling to zoom in and out. But honestly, you are greatly I've thinking this. You even said you watch sports which are 16:9 and filling the whole screen squashing any chance for burn in. You would have to be watching wider than 16:9 content every day without watching any other content whatsoever. And even Netflix will throw different ratios, so it's not always the same. So refer to my statement above of just enoy your TV.

On a side note, the link below will show you the things your TV does to prevent image retention. And it apparently says you can zoom/stretch and so on. Not sure if it covers your model. It's from a specific product page, but it's generic oled info. 

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/televisions-projectors-oled-tvs-android-/xbr-55a8h/articles...

Milan
Community Member

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Jeran
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

Hey there crogs,

 

There is currently a large backlog of threads that need catching up on. The Nest Community Forum has a focus on the Community helping each other out, and I moderate and answer where I can, starting with the oldest threads first when it comes to support.

 

If you require help immediately, I would recommend getting into contact with Chromecast Support directly.

 

I appreciate your help on the threads!

 

Best regards,

Jeran

Milan
Community Member

👍

crogs
Community Member

Was kinda pointing out this problem has existed since day one so it's a bit shocking their own app won't show up on your installed apps. And they don't seem interested in fixing it. 

Milan
Community Member

Hey crogs and Silver Product Expert,

I read a little older records of some forum members, if I understood correctly Google Chromecast with TV 4K always shows a picture in 16: 9 aspect ratio ?!

Maybe someone from the forum will confirm to me if I understood correctly.

If this is true, then buying Google Chromecast with TV 4K solves my problem.

I hope you understand, I just want the top panel to age evenly even at the expense of the poorer picture in some movies.

Thank you and best regards!

Chromecast with Google TV do not alway display in 16:9 aspect ratio. If, for example, you connect it to a 4:3 monitor, the available resolutions offered by the Chromecast device will have a 4:3 aspect ratio.

Milan
Community Member

So this means that Google Chromecast with TV 4K will show video with Netflix in a different format (like 21: 9) on TV in screen format, i.e. 16: 9?

On a 4:3 screen a 21:10 aspect ratio will display with bigger black bands on top and bottom and on the 16:9 screen a 21:10 aspect ratio will display with smaller black bands on top and bottom.

Milan
Community Member

Thanks, I got it.

djtetei
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The only way you can make the black bars to "disappear" is to select the zoom option on your TV to fill the screen with the image, but that means you will loose video content on the sides.

Milan
Community Member

I have already described that this option is not on my OLED for Netflix, as can be seen from the first photo.

djtetei
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This is a problem for Sony to solve and here is my reasoning: all modern TVs have screens that are prone to burnin effect. Sony knows that very well and should take steps to enable the zoom option to work over HDMI too.

Milan
Community Member

Hey Silver Product Expert and  crogs,

I read a little older records of some forum members, if I understood correctly Google Chromecast with TV 4K always shows a picture in 16: 9 aspect ratio ?!

Maybe someone from the forum will confirm to me if I understood correctly.

If this is true, then buying Google Chromecast with TV 4K solves my problem.

I hope you understand, I just want the top panel to age evenly even at the expense of the poorer picture in some movies.

Thank you and best regards!

Jeran
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

Hey there,

Did you have any more questions or need any additional help?

Thank you,
Jeran
 

Milan
Community Member

I have no further questions, Mr Jeran.

Please close the topic for me.

Thanks for the help and best regards!

Milan

Jeran
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

No problem at all! If you have any more questions or concerns in the future, feel free to make a new thread!

 

Thank you for your help on this, djtetei and crogs!

 

Best regards,

Jeran