06-18-2023 01:06 AM - edited 06-18-2023 02:20 AM
I'm unable to find or create the home / away household routines.
I've:
One thing I've noticed is that if I try to create a routine named "home" or "away", it says the "name must be unique". This implies that the routines might exist but are hidden for some reason.
I contacted support and they pointed me towards a view forums posts and docs but none of it worked.
06-18-2023 02:17 AM
Hi nathanperkins,
On the Google Home app if you go into settings / Presence sensing, do you see your phone as an option to toggle on?
Can you also check if you have access to the new automations script editor linked below...
Automations script editor:
https://home.google.com/automations
Also linked below is more information about the home/away assist feature.
https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9257400
06-18-2023 02:22 AM - edited 06-18-2023 02:23 AM
06-18-2023 03:35 AM
Hi again,
The Google Home app is currently in the process of an update roll out so it's possible that you might not of received that yet.
The home/away assist feature should still be available though?
Please have a look through the help center link below for troubleshooting help...
https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9261396
The links below show more information about using the script editor and there's an example of creating a home/away automation that is for switching a camera on/off but can be edited for other devices.
Script examples:
https://developers.home.google.com/automations/example-scripts
Advanced automations:
https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/13323253
Let us know if you are still having issues.
06-18-2023 04:04 PM
I've followed all the guides I could find, but they all reference settings that don't seem to exist in my app (see the original post).
The script editor doesn't show any options for home presence in auto-complete. It seems to be aware that home presence is not enabled correctly for the home.
06-20-2023 05:05 PM - edited 06-20-2023 05:17 PM
I definitely have the same issue. I can't even use the nest wired 2nd gen camera in a routine. During camera setup it appears to create the routine and presence of home and away but it doesn't work. So not only can I not control it with location presence (not available for me and wife in home app) I can't turn on and off via any routine. I now have it unplugged thinking I should try a different camera.
06-24-2023 11:10 PM
Same issue here. It was there a few hours ago, and now it's gone. Can't seem to find it anywhere.
06-25-2023 04:56 AM
Hi everyone,
I have reported this issue to the Google Nest team/community specialist's.
06-26-2023 05:56 PM
Hi everyone,
We appreciate you bringing this to our attention, @Cathal_S.
@nathanperkins @Guijcm, setting up Home & Away Routines requires at least one supported device. Supported devices are:
Do you have any of these devices in your account?
@Jrowe, kindly try the suggested troubleshooting steps for Nest Home and Away not working.
Keep us posted.
Kind regards,
Alex
06-26-2023 06:03 PM
Hello!
I do. I have Nest Learning Thermostat, and two Wyze Smart Plugs, all in the Home app.
Presence Sensing can be found within my app again, it randomly reappeared, I didn't change anything. It disappears here and there and randomly shows up again, and every time it asks me to confirm I'm using my current device for it. My Nest app seems to know Presence Sensing is activated because I got a message within the app that reads as follows:
Updates to Home/Away Assist Home & Away Routines are ready in the Google Homea pp Guillermo Chavarria used the Google Home app to set up Home & Away Routines for this home. This meanst hat your devices can automatically respond to these ettings in both apps. When one app switches to Home or Away, the other app will also switch. Only one app can use phone location at a time. Home & Away Routines in the Home app have new features, like the ability to automatically control lights, plugs, and Switches."
06-26-2023 06:58 PM
Still no presence of away or home routine. I factory reset my camera and reinstalled but no change. Not much of the help documents apply because large portions of functionality do not appear for presence our routines.
07-16-2023 12:41 AM
So I found something new today that appears to have fixed everything. I had to select the "home" drop down at the top left in the Home app. That seems to have enabled presence sensing and the home and away routines. Maybe I never noticed the drop down because the app name is also "home". Not sure... odd it suddenly works now.
07-16-2023 11:41 AM
For me that home drop down is only on the favorite tab. So maybe that is why it took so long for me to notice it.
07-01-2023 01:06 PM - edited 07-01-2023 01:08 PM
Yes, I have many lights and plugs.
The home / away routines eventually appeared on their own, seemingly without any action taken by me.
There is probably a bug in the app or backend. I hope they are looking into this because the home / away routine settings seem to come and go for people without any explanation.
Now that I have access to home / away routines, I have new problems where the Nest Hub doesn't recognize the "Everybody is leaving" command and the away routine doesn't activate for 1 hour after everybody is gone from the house 🙂
07-12-2023 11:42 AM
Hey nathanperkins,
To confirm, is it working before? What are the actions included in your "Everybody is leaving" routine? Did you turn on the presence sensing on your device?
Cheers,
Muddi
07-12-2023 12:30 PM
Yes, we have presence sensing on for multiple phones as well as our nest hubs. The actions shouldn't matter because I'm looking at the actual status of the presence for the home, which indicates "HOME" even though we just told the Nest Hub that it is away.
Sometimes we say "everybody is leaving" and it works perfectly. Other times it just responds by saying good bye, but doesn't actually take any action.
07-12-2023 11:58 AM
I'm actually having a similar issue too. For some reason, even though my "Away/Home" routines have no actions in them, my Nest Learning Thermostat activity shows that the "Away" routine activates every day at 8AM, even though I have never set something up. So I have to keep swapping back my Thermostat to "Home" because it keeps changing to Away on its own every morning. Not sure why that's happening if I'm not leaving my house at 8AM, nor do I have anything set up to work with the "Away" routine that activates on it's own every morning.
07-15-2023 10:41 PM
Home and Away sensing worked perfectly on the old Nest Dropcams using the Nest app. But then I received Google's email telling me that the Dropcams would become obsolete next year and offering me a deal (only tacky white cameras, of course) if I upgraded to Google's Nest Cams. I made the terrible mistake of believing Google: I purchased replacement Nest Cams and mounted them in the exact Dropcam locations. I had no idea that this so-called upgrade was actually a downgrade in both function and app usability. And nothing in the email said I would only be able to set up the new cameras with Google Home, which has a rudimentary and clunky UI compared to the Nest App.
To get back to my main complaint, presence sensing doesn't work with Google Home, and automation doesn't allow me to select my phone as a device to trigger a routine. All this worked fine with Dropcams and the Nest app. It doesn't work at all with Nest Cams and Google Home.
Before we go any further: Yes, I contacted Google Support about this issue. I have a case number. I spent over two hours on chat with a hopelessly inept Google support agent from some third-world country who struggled with English grammar and knowledge of the Google Home app, after which I had to beg them to escalate my case to someone higher up. They said they would do so and that I would get a response via email, which I did a few days later-- and the so-called advanced emailed solutions were worse and more ill-informed than the original support I received via chat. It was almost as if the original agent passed my case ID to someone at the same level in support and never escalated my case (probably to protect their job performance metrics).
To add insult to injury, when the cameras are on and I'm away from the house, I can't watch camera clips at all. Google must not provide sufficient bandwidth for me to view the clips regardless of the strength of my network connection (cell or WiFi). So if I get an alert, I open Google Home, view a useless thumbnail, and then watch the gears spin endlessly until I get an error message that the video can't be viewed. What's the point of paying Google for a service that doesn't work? I'm getting ripped off.
[iPhone 14 Pro running the latest IOS. Gigabit Wifi with strong signal strength at the camera locations. And I have over 7 active Nest products in this home. Everything worked flawlessly with Dropcams and the Nest apps.]
07-19-2023 03:51 PM
Yes to all of this! There is no home/away or presence sensing in the Home app and I’ve tried every single suggestion on every forum. And yet for my older Nest devices home/away assist still works perfectly based on my phone location. They should not be selling devices they cannot service especially when they own a perfectly functional, user-friendly format in Nest and won’t use it.
07-19-2023 03:52 PM
Yes to all of this! There is no home/away or presence sensing in the Home app and I’ve tried every single suggestion on every forum. And yet for my older Nest devices home/away assist still works perfectly based on my phone location. They should not be selling devices they cannot service especially when they own a perfectly functional, user-friendly format in Nest and won’t use it.
10-08-2023 09:38 PM
Hi. I have the exact same issue. Did you find a solution?
10-15-2023 11:00 PM
Click on the name if your home in the top left of the Home app. It will then ask if you want to set up away/home.
10-15-2023 11:22 PM
That doesn't work. Set to Home but camera is on 24/7. Need camera to turn on automatically when device (phone) leaves the house.
10-16-2023 03:28 AM - edited 10-16-2023 03:28 AM
I don't have those options
All i see there is "Learn about Home and Away" and a link that takes me to the Help page that explains it all.
10-25-2023 09:14 AM
I found this thread in case anyone ever gets here > https://www.reddit.com/r/googlehome/comments/yqj81n/my_homeaway_routines_are_missing/
This is the ONLY thing I found that actually works for this ridiculous bug. What I did was this..
This is the ONLY thing that worked for me.. I tried all kinds of hacks, removing cache, reinstalling, etc.. nothing worked. It had to be a virgin user into the home and that virgin user was given the opportunity to setup home/away. I also heard that you can just wait and Google home will eventually remind you to setup home/away, but I didn't want to wait...who knows when that trigger will fire and I can do it, but this worked.
11-12-2023 07:34 PM
Thank you very much for this solution. Absolutely ridiculous that this work around is needed, but yes, it also worked perfectly for me as well
11-29-2023 05:05 AM
Thanks for the info... Unfortunately didn't work for me. Still no access to home and away routines. I tried all the things here as well with no luck. I even went through the process of removing the camera and setting it up again (asked me to set up home/away routines, which I did). So puzzled... why is this so difficult
07-18-2024 11:51 AM
So dumb that this is the thing that finally got it working for me. I knew Google had its issues but this is horrible that you have to go through this kind of weird process to get it working.
11-29-2023 06:14 AM
@Cathal_S I've tried everything in this thread and still not access to home/away routines. I've been scouring the internet and it seems like loads of people are having the same problems.
Are there any other things??? Seems like Google should fix this...
11-30-2023 06:00 AM
By the grace of the universe, I finally got it to work. My wife was already a manager/member of my home. So, tried to set up presence sensing with her phone (iPhone, I have an Android). After setting that up... it works... the automations/routines were finally visible in her app. When I checked mine, they showed up as well.
So... may not work for everyone, but try set up presence sensing (can remove later) for all members of your home
12-20-2023 09:01 PM
I’m having this exact same issue. I’m able to change my home and away settings, but I cannot set routines specific to being home or away. The buttons are just outright missing.
12-20-2023 09:05 PM
Yea man, use a separate phone and it will come up.
02-10-2024 04:52 AM
That didn't work for me, either. I wrote home and away routines with the script editor, but none of these options (above) worked to make the official Home and Away routines show up. Can I get some help with that, please?
07-31-2024 07:04 PM
+1, having this same issue and none of the solutions in here have worked for me