12-23-2022 12:16 AM - edited 12-23-2022 12:16 AM
I now use my Best Nub2 to control a couple of Matter enabled Thread devices (Eve Power, Eve Door& Window). These are also controlled with Thread+Matter by Apple home and an AppleTV4K as border router.
I see the two border routers created separate Thread networks. So obviously Nest Hub2 does not yet use Thread 1.3.0 which would allow merging them. Is this correct? What are Googles plans to fix that?
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01-08-2023 12:05 AM
I found the thread version using iOS/Mac app called Discovery DNS-SD Browser. Go to "_meshcop._udp.". Pick your Thread Router. "tv" means thread version. It’s probably possible using a similar app with an android but I don’t have one. I don’t know about its mesh capabilities. Technically it’s possible but I don’t see any other thread router with Thread 1.3.0.
12-23-2022 02:19 AM
Hi @fabnapp
Great question.
I am not able to find out which Thread version is running on the Nest Hub 2e gen.
Sorry I am not much of a help but I also would like to know the answer. 😂
Also there is no public release notes for the firmware for each device.
12-23-2022 03:49 AM
well…
12-23-2022 11:17 AM
12-23-2022 11:20 AM
12-25-2022 09:14 AM
Anybody from Google able to add some insight?
12-25-2022 04:12 PM
what are you trying to achieve actually? it would help me understand what your goal is, and also it may actually help me in the future when installing my own equipment.
12-26-2022 12:10 AM
Thread since it‘s newest Version 1.3.0 supports multiple Border Routers joining and controlling the same network. My ultimate target scenario is Google Nest Hub 2, Amazon Echo4 and Apple TV4k all in the same Thread network controlling all the iOT devices and forming a super stable redundant mesh network.
12-26-2022 06:43 AM
so what's the problem? just connect them all together through wifi and or blutooth, and if that don't work, replace the device that has malfunctioned, and start over. good luck community
12-26-2022 07:47 AM
Why would I want inferior iot tech like WiFi and BT when I am asking about Thread 🙂
So simple terms again: when will Nest devices get the current Thread 1.3.0?
12-26-2022 01:57 PM
yeah I see now! thanks! I had to do a little research to learn about the thread network, hardware and its functions. I see that It could take a while to learn all that's needed to be learned, but it seems very interesting. sorry I was unable to assist with specifics. I hope all is well for you in the future and I hope all the equipment works well in the future as well. thanks for the interesting dynamic that contributed to my wisdom development. I never knew about thread devices, or thread home networks. very good work everyone. But I guess it's gonna be good in the future when I begin to build my dream house. It's gonna be a smart home, wonderful how well everything works out. thank you
12-26-2022 10:37 AM
Hi @fabnapp
Probably when a half year or a few new stable releases are present.
To implement such tech within devices that have a lot of users needs some good testing. So I am sure they won't be on the latest release every time. Maybe Google waits for 2.0?
12-26-2022 11:49 AM
For something that actually is the very technology that makes matter make sense, that would be super lame.
See here what it actually is
12-26-2022 01:58 PM
I look forward to the development of my own network with my dream home. It's good to develop and stay in the know. thanks for the dynamics and unity this holiday season. take care, see ya.
01-07-2023 11:48 PM
Nest hub (2nd Gen) is using Thread 1.3.0
01-07-2023 11:52 PM
How do you know?
Can it cooperate with other border routers then?
01-08-2023 12:05 AM
I found the thread version using iOS/Mac app called Discovery DNS-SD Browser. Go to "_meshcop._udp.". Pick your Thread Router. "tv" means thread version. It’s probably possible using a similar app with an android but I don’t have one. I don’t know about its mesh capabilities. Technically it’s possible but I don’t see any other thread router with Thread 1.3.0.
01-08-2023 12:40 AM
Awesome. That app also shows all matter devices! (In a cryptic manner though) it also shows that actually Apple is the culprit here beeing on 1.2.0 still 🙂
What I cant find here are my other thread devices (All Eve). Tips welcome o/
01-08-2023 12:45 AM - edited 01-08-2023 12:51 AM
From my understanding meshcop only shows thread border routers. What matter devices do you have?
01-08-2023 12:57 AM
i got
2 pairs of Eve Energy that are thread/Matter
2 pairs of Eve Window that are thread/Matter
several Eve Thermostats that Are Thread but not Matter yet
2 Hue Bridges that are Matter
Several Amazon Echos that are Matter (but no thread)
Apple TV 4K which is a Matter Controller and Thread 1.2.0 Boarder Router for all the Eve devices
Nest Hub 1 (Matter but no thread)
Nest Hub 2 (Matter and thread boarder router for the Eves with matter so far. No luck with the Hue)
01-08-2023 01:01 AM - edited 01-08-2023 01:02 AM
Wow! Nice setup! And the only things that appear are the thread border routers (Apple TV, Nest Hub 2nd) or do you see more under meshcop?
Let’s hope Apple will update to Thread 1.3.0 for a shared network with Google and Amazon (eero and Alexa)
01-08-2023 01:23 AM
Yea, so far I see those two as the Echo4 thread is not on yet (spring they state). The only way to kinda show my other thread devices I found so far is the Eve app - which does not list the Nest2 yet. I hope we get more graphic apps soon to visualize Matter and Thread setups
01-08-2023 11:36 AM
Do you know if it's possible to update Eve sensors to matter without a home hub with thread?
I want to update them using bluetooth from HomeKit and then use them with matter through Google Nest Hub (2nd Gen, Thread)
01-08-2023 11:40 AM
Only know you need Homekit. But I don't know if an iPad will be enough. I did it in a system with Apple TV thread. You upgrade the firmware through the Eve app and then it generates Matter QR codes which you can use e.g. with Google home.
01-25-2023 07:07 PM
Hello folks,
Chiming in to see if you still need assistance with this. Hope the previous post helped. Let us know if you have additional questions, otherwise we’ll be locking the thread.
Best,
Princess
01-26-2023 07:23 PM
Hi everyone,
Due to inactivity, I'll go ahead and lock this thread in 24 hours. Feel free to start a new thread if you need assistance with your Google Nest devices and we'd be glad to assist you further.
Best,
Princess
01-26-2023 07:28 PM
do ya thank bro, we all done on this scene! later . . .
01-26-2023 07:31 PM
I meant thing, my bad. i get so use to the auto-correct and then i misspell words. take care my friend
02-06-2023 09:41 PM
Hi BrandonLaMontCo,
Take care also! Feel free to reach us back anytime you have questions or needs assistance with your Google Nest devices and the Community would gladly help.
We'll go ahead and close this thread now.
Best,
Princess
01-08-2023 12:21 PM
sorry guys, I'm still in the learning phase. I feel like being apart of the Nest Community is gonna be a lifelong commitment to learning, evolving and developing. I look forward to helping in the future and thank you for your questions and support. great work out there Nest. take care
01-17-2023 03:59 PM
Hey everyone,
It's good to see you all active in this Community.
While we learn new things every day, here are some insights about how Google products use Thread:
Google products are designed to work together so they can communicate with you and each other in a variety of ways. They typically use Wi-Fi networks, but can also use Thread wireless mesh networking.
For an illustration of how Thread and Matter devices connect to each other in your home, go to the Thread Group's smart home page.
Google products can use Thread and Wi-Fi for various purposes, like downloading software updates, sending app notifications, and devices communicating with each other. Products usually use Wi-Fi or Thread as their primary network to communicate with other devices. Some of our products have radios for both networks and can act as Thread border routers.
Google's Thread border routers are:
Feel free to add new info as we discover these new things.
Best,
Princess