09-22-2021 01:08 PM
I have set up home and away assist. I have 9 nest protects. And I have phone locations set on my wife and my phones but I am still having to turn on my thermostat when I come home. I walk in and nothing. I walk past the thermostat and the cooling come on. Walk upstairs (the phone is still on and google maps show it as being home, then shortly afterwards I see from the app that nest is set to eco mode and in away mode. I have to manually change it to home mode before the cooling comes on. Seems a little redundant!
10-09-2021 09:17 AM
This is the same issue I have.
-using 2 iPhones to determine if we are home or away
-worked perfectly from new in 2017 until a few months after Google bought Nest and implemented Google Home and made use of Google Home a must. Since then
2. NEST will reliably recognize when we leave and switch to Away
3. Nest sometimes recognizes when we return home. This error has become more frequent, to a point that I have been shopping for a new smart thermostat.
4. Nest has recently been deciding we are Away when home, including while we are sleeping. Now we are highly motivated to replace Nest
5. Nest has stopped recognizing my phone, although it does recognize my wife's.
6. We have done a full Nest reset. No change.
7. While shopping for other brands we found extended conversations about the C (common) connection on the thermostat. This provides a return path for the 24 volt power. Without it, most smart thermostats will not work. Nest uses a clever but questionable method of stealing power from the other wires to keep the Nest battery charged. However, the Nest without C connected is prone to battery failures and erratic operation.
8. Based on the discussions, I purchased an Add a Wire kit that allowed me to connect from furnace to the C of the thermostat. Venstar Add a Wire, $25 on Amazon. Delivery 2 days. Easy installation.
Other options:
a. Pull C wire from furnace to thermostat. Lots of effort, possible dry wall repair if existing passage is too small to pull the new wire
b. Use fan wire for C. Lose manual operation of fan
c. Add 110-24 volt transformer, plug into nearby outlet and run c wire from transformer to c on thermostat. Ugly.
d. Add Internal battery. Expect short life
e. Manually recharge Nest battery when needed/regular schedule to minimize erratic performance. I am not clear how this is done-through C terminal on thermostat? Sounds like a pain
f. Ecobee provides a device they name PEK to work around no C connection. Maybe same as Add a Wire?
9. Installed Add a Wire today. Confirmed HVAC works. Nest switched us to Away a few minutes ago while we were home, so maybe not a fix. No matter-this will allow us to buy an Ecobee or Honeywell with similar functionality.
We will see what happens for a week before taking further action
05-12-2023 01:18 PM
Why does Google not fix the issue?
05-12-2023 01:19 PM
I have the same issue. My android cell works my wife's Pixel does not.
SAD
05-16-2023 03:32 PM
Hello Amn,
Thank you for taking the time to let us know about your inquiry. I'd love to know more about this.
I'll look forward to your response.
Regards,
Mark
05-19-2023 03:57 PM
Hey there,
I wanted to see if you still needed help. Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Mark
05-19-2023 04:17 PM
Mine nest thermostat does not work for home and away it says on the nest app it's been a few days since we have heard from your phone. Acts like it doesn't get location but in the location settings you can tell it never requests location
05-25-2023 02:35 PM
Hi folks,
I wanted to stop by and see how I could help.
@Amn, how's it going? Were you able to read the information that Mark has shared? In case you have an update, let us know and we'll be happy to help.
Also, @Darmfield12, make sure location services are turned on for any contributing mobile devices.
Thanks for your help, Mark.
Best,
Zoe
05-25-2023 04:31 PM
Nest app has access to location all the time and I get nothing from the app
06-03-2023 05:18 PM
Hi everyone,
@Amn, How's it going with? Were you able to read the information that I shared? In case you have an update, let us know and we'll be happy to help.
@Darmfield12, check Activity History in the Nest App (go to Settings, select Home/Away Assist, and then tap Activity History) — this should provide an explanation of when and why the home state changed over the previous 10 days. For example, the note "Home: Activity in the house. Living Room Thermostat 7:30 P.M." means that the home switched out of Away mode because the customer’s thermostat saw activity.
Let me know how it goes.
Regards,
Zoe
06-07-2023 07:47 AM
Hi everyone,
I wanted to check and see if you are still in need of any help. Please let me know, as I would be happy to assist, and answer any questions you may have.
Thanks,
Zoe
06-08-2023 08:06 AM
Hello there,
We haven't heard from you in a while, so we'll be locking this thread if there is no update within 24 hours. If you run into any more issues in the future, please feel free to create a new thread.
All the best,
Zoe
06-08-2023 10:12 AM
It does not show anything besides it switched to home because it sensed motion
06-10-2023 02:51 PM
Hi folks,
@Darmfield12, thanks for reaching out to us, and I'm sorry for the late response. I found a helpful article that you can check in troubleshooting your Home/Away routines.
Let us know how it goes.
Best regards,
Zoe
06-13-2023 02:56 PM
Hello Darmfield12,
I wanted to check and see if you are still in need of any help. Please let me know, as I would be happy to assist, and answer any questions you may have.
Thanks,
Zoe
06-14-2023 03:28 PM
Hey there,
Just one quick final check in here since activity has slowed down. We'll be locking the thread in the next 24 hours, but if you still need help, I would be happy to keep it open. If there's more we can do, just let me know.
All the best,
Zoe