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Hard Wiring System to the Guest House

Kriley
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I have a large ranch style home with a Google WiFi network which works beautifully.  I also have a guest house about 120 feet away.  In the main house the PRIMARY Access Point (which acts as the router) is hardwired to the modem (to the WAN port).  From there 4 additional Access Points are  located throughout the house and the coverage from end to end is perfect.  

The problem is the guest house is too far to wirelessly connect so I have hardwired  Cat-5 from the PRIMARY access point in the house to the guest house.  I connected to the LAN port of the PRIMARY Access Point and connected to the WAN port of a Google Access Point in the guest house.  It seemed to work for about a minute but now I can’t get it to recognize that it is hard-wired as once in a while it picks up the wireless signal from the house but for the most part it is just dead.  

How do I get this Access Point/Router to recognize that it is hardwired?  Or  should I purchase a Google Nest “Router” ?   Any other options?  I love Google/Nest products so I’m hoping there is a solution.  

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Robert_tow
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I have the same question!  I just set up my Router and 2 access points in my main home today, and I'm thinking about the best setup for my backyard office / guest house, which is about 75 feet away. I was planning on hard wiring from the Router in my main home to the guest house, and buying a second router to plug in to there. But, I would set that up as an access point, not a router. I don't need the router functionality, rather I just need the ethernet port. So my question is: can I hard-wire a second router in the mesh system but not use it as a router, rather use it as a wired access point?  My plan is to hard-wire my laptop into the guest house access point / router, and the guest house would of course also have wifi out there from the access point too.  

Another (cheaper) idea I had was to run an ethernet cable out to the guest house and plug in a 4 port switch. Then just plug my laptop in there.  Saves me from buying another router/access point.  The downside is there would likely not be strong wifi out there for the time I'm (or guests are) not hard-wired in.

Hope I explained myself somewhat well.... 🙂 

@MichaelP provided a great answer to this point, and I'm crossing my fingers he'll do the same here 🙂

https://www.googlenestcommunity.com/t5/Nest-Wifi/Can-I-use-a-2nd-Nest-Router-as-a-Point-in-order-to-...

olavrb
Platinum Product Expert
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"Can I hard-wire a second router in the mesh system but not use it as a router, rather use it as a wired access point?"

Yes you can. 🙂


I don't work for Google.

olavrb
Platinum Product Expert
Platinum Product Expert

According to documentation:

And given my previous experience with wired backhaul with Nest Wifi, the setup you described should work fine.

Try to reset the wired point, set it up again while it's hardwired to the primary?

If that does not help, try to restart the whole network from the Google Home app, might help too.


I don't work for Google.

MichaelP
Diamond Product Expert
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Just a couple additional thoughts on this. First, if you've already set up the new to-be-remote unit near the primary as a wireless unit and verified it's working that way, then I would connect it via Ethernet to the primary unit's LAN Ethernet port (still nearby) and verify in the Google Home app that the new unit shows as having a connection type of "wired". Next, I would use a pair of inexpensive, unmanaged Ethernet switches, one in the main house connected to the primary's LAN Ethernet port and the other in the outbuilding with the long cable run between them. This provides some electrical isolation to protect the more expensive Google devices in the event of a lightning strike. It also provides more Ethernet ports in the main house that can be used to build out a wired network, and in the outbuilding to connect wired devices out there. Once those are in place, you can test that network in the outbuilding with a laptop or something to verify the wired network is working reliably. Then connect the new remote Google WiFi unit to the Ethernet switch in the outbuilding and verify it joins the network and shows as having a wired connection.

If this doesn't work reliably, the most likely issue is the Ethernet connection, which is why I recommend testing those components independently, and one piece at a time so you know where the issue is (rather than skipping to the end and wondering why it doesn't work).

Avoid smart/managed Ethernet switches when you build a network like this. They will cause problems due to the loop detection protocol Google/Nest WiFi uses.

Robert_tow
Community Member

Great things to think about.  Thank you MichaelP and Olavrb! I'll give that setup a try and pick up some unmanaged switches.

Jeff
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

Hi, Kriley.
I just wanted to jump in real fast to see if you saw the replies here and to see if you still needed some help on this or if you were able to get it sorted out. If you are still needing some help, just let us know and we'll be happy to continue helping.
Thanks.

Jeff
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

Hi, everyone.
As we haven't had any activity here recently I'm going to go ahead and close the thread. If you have more to add, feel free to start a new discussion.
Thanks