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Nest Wifi Pro (Wi-Fi 6E) Planning/Compatibility

iNetSpy
Community Member

Please be patient with me, I know this sounds like I am rich, I am not. I am a retired disabled Vet and trying to DIY most of this design myself and then implement the most practical (cost tolerant) solution. My network supports family members with cancer who have moved in with me. I want to support them with this the best I can, without turning myself int a full time tech support guy for folks older than me.

My Grandfather would say "Good enough" is not "Good". My first post here, I hope you find this as interesting as it will be helpful to me if we can create a solution. I am more than a little OCD, so planning for wifi 6e, but noticed Wifi 7 routers are publicly for sale now in December of 2023.

My understandings, and feel free to correct me...

Wi-Fi 4 = 2.4 ghz best for long range, Wifi 5 = 5 ghz faster than 2.4 for range (without repeater/extenders) is less than half. Wifi 6 ghz big boost in speed over all before, more range than 5 but less than 2.4 ghz (local cable ONLY carries 2.4 ghz extenders even today). Wifi 6e also 6 ghz but ability to use up to four 6 ghz channels at one time for one device. Even though there are 4 channels, max speed is limited to approx. double the original wifi 6 standard.

Thank you internet standards for allowing 802.11ax to stand for both wifi 6 and wifi 6e to confuse the mortals that work on their own stuff.

In the google wifi pro compatibility on google sites, they explain google wifi pro is wifi 6e, but is NOT compatible with other prior google wifi connector devices, etc. In this instance does that mean google wifi pro is ONLY using wifi 6e 6 ghz and not supporting the older frequencies so no 2.4 ghz and no 5 ghz???

I have 6 TVs and DVRs but they are not all new, many only support 2.4/5ghz frequencies, must I replace everything or in my new network design should I carve out a second OLD FREQ network for those devices? (by the way that sounds very "good enough" to the other residents here).

In the case of my new home network design, I am tired of local vendors trying to sell me on "one or two bars of wifi" is "good enough". I would like to know what it takes to get 5 bars of 6e ( to the edge of this area. Approximately 1/2 (.5) acre or approx 22,000 sqft of coverage... A single story ranch style home (approx 2,100 sqft brick house built to 1984 Texas standards) in the middle plus an attached two car garage,

Eight 4K security cameras, plus six 4k TV/DVRs, a small home office (4 computers, 2 printers) Cellphones on wifi for 12 the ring (or better) entry, wifi controlled locks for two doors, plus access pad for Delivery to raise/lower garage door.

I do not have a Security solution, wifi mesh solution or even complete inside the house solution.

I have only found 1080p Google cameras. The ring doorbell is only 720p. Anyone in Google want to testbed 4K or better Google security cameras? My land is flat...  The house is Brick... the ISP is local cable. The need is real!

Semper fidelis et paratus! /ALE

South Texas 3 miles from the border.

@iNetSpy 

 

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olavrb
Platinum Product Expert
Platinum Product Expert

Nest Wifi Pro does 2.4ghz, 5ghz and 6ghz for clients. It's not backwards compatible with "Nest Wifi" and "Google Wifi" because the wireless backhaul of "Nest Wifi Pro" goes over 6ghz only. And because Google didn't want it to be backwards compatible, not even with wired backhaul (ethernet cable between Nest Wifi units). More specs:

About how many you'll need for a good signal and where to place them:

I'd test out Nest Wifi Pro, make sure to buy them with the ability to return them if you're not happy. And if something does not work, don't wait for Google to fix it, return them instead.


I don't work for Google.

soandso
Community Member

Thanks for explaining that.  A 6GHz back haul is not such a good idea in a multilevel home, due to the high attenuation.  I found that by installing a temporary wired back haul the overall response at a remote node was nearly the same as by the modem.  Live in an old house ca 1851, wood and horse hair plaster.  Without the ethernet back haul, my uplink was reduced to 20 Mbps, as compared to 970 Mbps.  I am literally on the second floor directly over the main node.

Seems it is too late for me to return this, but I am quite disappointed in this 6 GHz wireless back haul.  The performance is lacking, and the mesh quality tools simply say things are fine, when they are obviously not.