This is a recent update, I can no longer start a youtube (proper) video and then cast the audio to the nest mini speakers. Why am I still subbed again? Why do I even own these things.
Very rarely am I actually upset with people/things and I thought I would be less angry being subbed to premium, but i just get angry in different ways. It's to the point that I'm just going to get rid of these things and go back to radio/stereo.
Things that seriously piss me off
-inconsistent wireless connectivity that is clearly a programming issue and not wireless connectivity. home app regularly cannot connect to the device youve selected, but you can do it from the home screen
-devices using the phones as the master instead of the router - breaks all the rules of networking, you go to the source, not a tertiary device
-unable to join stream or change streams, and inconsistent when they are in a group, constantly dropping groups. Even if they are within feet of each other and beside the router. Router can see the devices and packets are delivered and returned - as I said this is a programming problem.
-multiple phones/devices with home ap "confuses" the system and do not sync changes to each other
-if i have the speaker running in the office, and start something in the kitchen it errors out because they want you to fork over another $10 to have a "family" plan and if this does happen (and it does a lot) the speaker gets stuck and has to be rebooted and turned off via the phone
-nest mini's should be able to pick up youtube proper audio, not just youtube music
-restricting bluetooth (seriously?) to sub only. If I have to have my phone or tablet with me everywhere i go, I might as well just have a bluetooth speaker and be done with it.
That certainly hasn't been easy for you ― how many Nest Mini’s do you have that are in a speaker group? Do they work individually when you play YouTube? Could you try other music platforms?
Regarding networking, I do apologize if it’s an inconvenience for you however, the Nest Mini’s or any other devices cannot connect directly to your Wi-Fi if you don’t have an app to bring them to it. Just like all other non-Google smart devices, an app is needed for you to connect them to Wi-Fi so that you can control these devices and do some changes.
About speaker groups, are there any other non-Google speakers linked to it or are they all Nest Mini’s?
For the device settings when on your Home app, all your devices, including your phone must be on the same Wi-Fi network, otherwise, they cannot meet with each other. If it’s good with you, could you check if you have a dual band frequency(2.4 GHz and 5 GHz)? Do you happen to know if you have a band frequency?
When it comes to your concern about YouTube, is it not playing? Since you have a premium subscription, could you unlink and relink your account from the YouTube app to refresh it and tell me how it goes.
Primary issue is that a month ago you could play a video on traditional youtube (on the max hub), then cast that video's audio to the nest mini's. Today that functionality is removed and only works now with youtube music. In home app off the phone you can still go in and cast audio from there. It's that we've lost the cast option from the max hub to the nest mini's. Personally for my use the hub sits at the desk/office and its the dashboard for the rest of the house
At this point I've totally abandoned groups. 4 mini's + max hub. Currently on 2.4/5ghz dual band. Although I did try on straight 2.4 or 5 but it would still drop a speaker randomly. I've also statically assigned dhcp:mac to each device - so there are no potential duplicates. Router can handle 40 devices with a backplane of 2gigs. (2 phones, laptop, tablet, 3 leak detectors, 1 camera, printer, 5 nest, and 2 tvs, 1 stb). Ive also tried smaller groups, segregating subnets, etc makes no difference. Scanners so no issues/rfi and in practical tests doesn't change based on the location of the router or the speakers. In the basement for example were only talking ~ 500 sq feet with 3 devices and one drops randomly, or the phone cant reach the devices. I even put two speakers the router and phone within 5 feet and the phone/ap still couldn't pick up a device. If I switched the app to a different phone (s8 and s8+) (turning one phone off) it would be a different speaker that couldn't respond - but again from the main overview page the speakers accept volume changes. One of the question for the engineers would be does the overview send blind, like over udp, or what is different from the device menu vs the overview screen for each device.
And, yes. The app sends the command(s), but the networking is up to the router. Communication should be calling the IP of each device via the router and the routers arp table. If the router has connectivity and the phone/ap has connectivity to the router there should never be any loss/issue. And, its not a networking issue when the app can perform functions from the main screen (overview), but when you go into the device it fails to connect. Or when the app fights the other phones/tablets with home on it for which device is master.
Apologies for the delayed response.
Thank you for all the information you provided. Let's try these instead, since this involves casting from YouTube to your Nest speakers and display, I need you to do a sequential reboot starting with your router followed by your speakers. Restarting your phone might also help. After the reboot, try to give a voice command to play music from YouTube and see if it plays. Also, try playing music from different music services.
Keep me posted.