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Home mini says disable AP in router

demonseedxp
Community Member

So this has been an issue I've been fighting for a while now, but until tonight I haven't had any luck narrowing it down to a source of my problem. But the issue is and has been that I recently had to reset and reconfigure my mother's home network that used two nest routers and a slew of other Google branded and Google partner smart home devices, but every since the network factory reset some, but not all, of the devices connected would indeed work, but acted as though they were alone on the network, and had no awareness of all the other devices. 

 

Well tonight this all came to a head when I attempted to add another Home mini speaker to the network, which out of the box, setup was not what I have become accustomed too, in that setup was abruptly interrupted by a notification informing me my device needed "activated" and this required me to install another app called Device Utility. 

 

So I did exactly as instructed as it forced me to disconnect from my home network so it could then connect to the new device, then it asked for my network information, then it jumped straight back to trying to connect to the device but failed then informed me I need to reconnect to my network to proceed. But from then on the Home app was unable to discover a device to setup. 

 

So after reading through many disgruntled reviews on the app that cause the problem several said they had managed to eventually get it to complete the setup by resetting and jumping through hoops with the disconnection of the network, to when the actual right time to manually re-enable is. 

 

So I attempted to follow those instructions but after I performed a factory reset on the mini, this time the Home app kept going beyond the point it initially interrupted setup and asked for the other app,  and was seemingly back to working as expected. Making it all the way to the last part of setup, when it suddenly stopped again, this time telling me that my device had completed setup successfully but that it couldn't be found on the local network, and proceeded to say it was due to a improper network configuration setting. Specifically the AP setting, with a footnote that the UPnP setting needed to be turned on. 

 

This immediately struck me as odd since I'm using Nest routers that don't even have the option of turning on/off AP configurations, and also that I knew that UPnP was infact turned on, and after confirming, yes I was correct, I'm left with the fact that, now I'm completely lost as to what the actual problem could be and have no idea how to proceed. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thanks in advance. 

 

Chris 

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AxelD
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

Hi demonseedxp,

 

Thanks for posting in the Community! Sorry to hear that you aren't being able to connect your Home Mini to your Google router. No worries, help is here! I'd like to ask you a few questions to gather more details about it:

 

  1. Have you tried connecting your Google Nest Mini speaker to a Mobile Hotspot?
  2. Are other devices correctly connecting to your Google Router?
  3. Have you performed a Factory Reset on your speaker?
  4. Can I get a screenshot of when you're requested to "activate" the device?

Keep me posted.

 

Regards,

Axel.

Hi after straining my poor eyes trying to see the crazy light colored print in your response, I think I can answer your questions.

 

In the order asked

  1. No, the device was taken straight from it's sealed box and began the connection to the Nest router.
  2. Yes, Some but not all. More specifically, of the three Nest displays connected, only one is able to access other devices such as the Nest Thermostat also on the network. Also I'm sure it's not coincidence that the one Display that dose work is a 2nd gen while the other two displays plus the mini I'm currently fighting with are all 1st gen devices.
  3. Yes, as stated above, I performed a factory reset (several times actually)  to get the Home app to find the device again, and once it did, then to get it to show up on the network.  Ultimately giving up once the same error occurred several times in a row.  
  4. No, I can not, because as stated above, when I did perform the reset, I thought it would be a repeat of the first attempt, but it wasn't. It skipped the "activation" bit after it had run the first time, seemingly having flipped whatever bit it needed to in the firmware that then survived a factory reset. So now it no longer asks for the 2nd app.

After rereading my reply, I feel a correction is needed. When asked if other devices would connect to the network, I said some but not all. But that isn't correct. Everything in the house does connect, and the home app does indeed see them and allow me to add them to the home profile. What I actually meant by "some but not all" is that while everything is technically connected, only a few devices behave correctly and are able to have awareness of the other devices also connected, and are able to send control commands across the network to for instance, turn on/off lights. 

As I'm piecing all of this together, I'm realizing that it's only the first gen devices (two Nest displays, and one Mini (different than the one that can't be fond on the network)) that are unable to communicate with other devices. They all say when asked to send some kind of command, that the device I'm asking to  control is offline/unavailable.   But it wasn't until now that I was able to see the connection between what was working and what wasn't, was determined by if they were first gen or second gen. 

So clearly something has changed  in the communication protocol for the first gen devices, and that is the underlying issue across my network. 

But knowing this, still doesn't help me figure out how to  get them working properly

 

Update to this issue:

As I've been trying to figure this stuff out and searching things an ongoing lawsuit between Google and Sonos has come to my attention, and is most definitely the underlying cause of all of my problems.

 

Now the problem is why is google breaking its devices, and as my mother is one of the most affected since she uses a pixel device, what are my options to a resolution? 

Because from my position, it seems google is knowingly selling products that have the potential to just not work if you were loyal to the brand and bought into it's entire ecosystem. As the full weight of the situation sets in on me, anger is quickly replacing my confusion. I was never informed that google was removing functionality from the devices I've long since paid for, and bought solely for the features that they have so thoughtlessly taken away. 

I no longer have any hopes of this problem getting resolved, but instead I'd like to know through what channels I can take to escalate this up the ladder. Because through no fault of my own have I found myself with a bunch of broken devices, and I'd like to know what they are going to do to right this situation.  

   

AxelD
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

Hi demonseedxp,

 

Thank you for your reply. I understand that you're frustrated with the situation. It's clear you've invested time and effort in troubleshooting the issue. I apologize for the inconvenience. To help resolve this as quickly as possible, please fill out this form. An agent will contact you shortly to provide further assistance. Let me know once you submit it. 

 

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Regards, 

Axel