Wifi nest how wired to have better wifi on 2nd floor

[KevinDelorme]

Hi 

So I have my nest wifi routeur in the basement     

So in basement     isp - modem - nest router  - switch to all my rooms wired

But on the 1st and second floor i got nest points(no ethernet ports) but have issues with them as they often disconnect from wifi or cant find them with my phones sometimes to use as speakers for my music

So i want to be able to connect with an ehternet cable     points/2nd nest router  on 1st or 2nd floor to have a strong wifi signal for my 2nd floor wifi users

So should i connect one of my 2nd floor ethernet cable "out" that comes from the basement switch ,  to a 2nd router that have an ethernet connection  or a google point that have an ethernet connection   ..and then plug it into a switch on 2nd floor to go wired in all room

Or from the switch in the basement..ethernet to 2nd floor switch   then plug my 2nd router/google point   in the switch  so it can send strong wifi signal

Thanks

[David_K · Accepted solution]

To improve performance, you can chain multiple Nest Wifi routers together (not Nest Wifi points as they do not have an ethernet port).

Modem → main Nest Wifi router → Router → Router → and so on.

You can also include a non-managed switch as part of the chain if you need to:

Modem → main Nest Wifi router → Switch → Router → Router
Modem → main Nest Wifi router → Router → Switch → Router → Router

The only thing you shouldn't do is hardwire your main Nest Wifi router and additional routers into the same switch.

Hardwire Wifi devices with Ethernet - Google Nest Help

[MichaelP · Accepted solution]

Hello @KevinDelorme 

Just to add a bit to what @David_K has said here, you can use Google WiFi units as new secondary / access points instead of spending more on adding Nest WiFi Router units. The Nest WiFi Router units have more capable WiFi radios on paper, but in practice, the performance is unlikely to be noticeably different. I would also just add that my personal preference and advice is to connect new wired secondary units at the edges of a switched network rather than using both ports on them to connect more devices "downstream". It's not that the other options don't work – they do. It's just that having a secondary in the middle of a wired network like that means you're using its CPU to bridge downstream traffic, whereas an inexpensive Ethernet switch can do that more efficiently in hardware.

[David_K · Accepted solution]

To improve performance, you can chain multiple Nest Wifi routers together (not Nest Wifi points as they do not have an ethernet port).

Modem → main Nest Wifi router → Router → Router → and so on.

You can also include a non-managed switch as part of the chain if you need to:

Modem → main Nest Wifi router → Switch → Router → Router
Modem → main Nest Wifi router → Router → Switch → Router → Router

The only thing you shouldn't do is hardwire your main Nest Wifi router and additional routers into the same switch.

Hardwire Wifi devices with Ethernet - Google Nest Help

[MichaelP · Accepted solution]

Hello @KevinDelorme 

Just to add a bit to what @David_K has said here, you can use Google WiFi units as new secondary / access points instead of spending more on adding Nest WiFi Router units. The Nest WiFi Router units have more capable WiFi radios on paper, but in practice, the performance is unlikely to be noticeably different. I would also just add that my personal preference and advice is to connect new wired secondary units at the edges of a switched network rather than using both ports on them to connect more devices "downstream". It's not that the other options don't work – they do. It's just that having a secondary in the middle of a wired network like that means you're using its CPU to bridge downstream traffic, whereas an inexpensive Ethernet switch can do that more efficiently in hardware.

[KevinDelorme]

Ok so i could use "old gen" google wifi points since they have ethernet ports

But i plug it in the switch but dont plug an ethernet cable "out" of the wifi point

That what i was about to do but i ve asked myself if it was better to continue with nest hardware     but you confirmed that i could use standard google wifi point so im happy about that

When you say to plug the wifi points  at the edge of the switch    do you literaly mean the edge of the switch hardware    or u mean to not continue the "wired" network from the google wifi point to another hardware?

Cause i have a switch beside my main router in the basement..from there   ethernet cables go to 1st and 2nd floor.

On 1st floor i have another switch that i plug the ethernet cable that comes from the basement..and the other ethernet that i plugged in that switch goes to tv, videogame consoles, pc     (so would that be ok that my last availablr port on thsr switch on the first floor..i plug a wifi google point to expend my 1st floor wifi)

And same configuration on the 2nd floor since from the 2nd floor switch  the cables go in 4 rooms      and u would take one port for a 2nd wifi google points to expend wifi on 2nd floor

Is it clear what im trying to explain?  Lol

[KevinDelorme]

    so that would work just fine?

[olavrb]

Yes, as long as the units are made for the same region/country. Make sure not to mix EU and US for instance. So ask seller where they bought the units, preferably also ask for the region information. Just to make sure you are trying to combine units for the exact same region/country.

More on mixing Nest Wifi wirh Google Wifi:

• https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9548099?hl=en

[AbigailF]

Hey folks, 

Thanks for lending a hand, @olavrb, @MichaelP, and @David_K.
@KevinDelorme, I wanted to follow up and see if you are still in need of any help. Please let me know if you are still having any concerns or questions from here, as I would be happy to take a closer look and assist you further.

Thanks,
Abi

[KevinDelorme]

Im good thank you

It was super usefull):

[AbigailF]

Hi KevinDelorme, 

Awesome — glad to hear that your issue is fixed. It looks like we can consider this one complete, so I will lock the thread shortly unless I can help out with anything else. 

Best, 
Abi

[MichaelP · Accepted solution]

Hello @KevinDelorme 

By "edge" I mean the edge of the entire switched network. It sounds like you have a core switch and then remote (edge) switches to feed multiple devices in those areas. I do exactly the same thing here. Just connect one port from your Google WiFi secondary access points to one or more of those existing switches, and don't connect anything to the other port on the Google WiFi units you use for that. Using David's notation, something like this:

Modem → main Nest WiFi Router → Core Switch → Edge Switch #1 → secondary Nest WiFi Router (or Google WiFi unit)

...Core Switch → Edge Switch #2 → secondary Nest WiFi Router (or Google WiFi unit)

...et cetera. You can keep everything currently connected to those edge switches as you have connected now. The new access point connections will be alongside those existing wired devices.