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RachelC
Googler
Googler

 Hey everyone,

With the launch of the new Nest cameras and doorbell, our goal is to deliver more choice and flexibility to our customers in the products they buy and install in their homes—indoor or outdoor, battery or wired. We rigorously tested and tuned our new battery devices to strike the balance between showing you the events you care about and ensuring the battery is there for you when you need it the most. That being said, we know there are questions around which type of device is right for you and your home. In this post, we’re sharing details and considerations to help you answer those questions.

 

 

Battery camera and battery doorbell

Wired cameras and wired doorbell

Installation requirements 

You can install a battery powered camera or doorbell anywhere within Wi-Fi range.

A wired doorbell or wired camera works with pre-existing wiring or a power outlet. You’ll need to plan ahead and consider if you have existing doorbell wiring that’s compatible (check out the Doorbell compatibility widget) or if you have a power outlet nearby to plug your camera into.

Installation location considerations 

A battery-powered camera will wake more often in high traffic areas which will use more battery. You can use Activity Zones to focus the camera on a specific area of the scene to optimize battery life. You can also adjust the battery settings such as changing or adjusting the wake-up sensitivity which controls when your camera starts recording. 

 

Learn more about battery life here

In a high traffic area where there’s a lot of activity, you may want to consider a wired option.

A wired device is always connected to power, so you don’t need to factor in battery life when deciding on an installation location.

Video History

 

Event video history  vs.

24/7 continuous video history

Battery-powered cameras offer event-based video history to record clips of important activity. An advantage of event video history is it helps prolong your battery life by detecting and recording important activity vs all activity. 

 

Learn more about Nest video history 

In addition to event-based video history, a wired camera or doorbell allows for 24/7 continuous video history —  a Nest Aware Plus subscription is required. 24/7 continuous video history records every second of the day for the last 10 days so you have a complete recording of what’s happening at your home, even if there is no activity. 24/7 continuous video history is not available on Nest Doorbell (battery), even with the optional wired installation.

 

Learn more about Nest video history 

Maximum video clip length

Video clips have a maximum length of 3 minutes to preserve battery life.

Video clips have a maximum length of 5 minutes. With a Nest Aware Plus subscription, you can add 24/7 continuous video history, which will record every second of the day for the past 10 days.

Camera detection

When Nest Cam (battery) is battery-powered, it can detect people about 25 feet (7.5 m) away.

When Nest Cam (battery) is plugged into power, it can detect people from further away -- about 30-40 feet (9-12 m) -- from the camera.

Checking battery life

You can check your camera battery life in the Google Home app and you’ll get alerted when your camera needs to be recharged. To learn more about typical battery life scenarios and how to optimize your settings for battery life, visit our support site

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Charging and Wiring considerations

Battery-powered devices need to be recharged. Here are some options to reduce that need to recharge:

  • A battery-operated doorbell can be connected to pre-existing wires so there is continuous power, reducing the likelihood of needing to charge. The additional benefit is this allows you to use your existing chime.
  • Solar charging option: A battery-operated camera and doorbell can be connected to a compatible solar panel accessory to remove the need to recharge in most cases, as long as there is enough sunlight.

You never need to charge your device because it’s connected to a power source.

Local storage fallback

In the case of a power or Wi-Fi outage, our battery-powered devices have local storage fallback, which means the new Nest Cam (battery) and Nest Doorbell (battery) will record up to one hour of local video (up to a week’s worth of events), and upload those clips to the Google Home app once service returns.
To learn more about Storage Fallback

Earlier generation wired devices like Nest Doorbell (wired), do not accommodate local storage fallback. However, the new Nest Cam (indoor/wired) and 2nd generation Nest Doorbell (wired), coming soon, will record up to one hour of local video (up to a week’s worth of events) if there’s a Wi-Fi outage.

Design considerations

Nest battery-powered cameras and doorbells have a slightly larger size to accommodate its built-in battery.

Nest Doorbell (wired) does not have a battery, providing a smaller frame and gives you the option to have a smaller form factor. 

Smoke and CO sound alerts

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The new Nest Cam (indoor, wired) and Nest Cam (battery), once plugged in and placed inside, can alert you if it detects a smoke or CO alarm within your home.
*Feature requires a Nest Aware subscription and is only available in the US. Audio recording must be turned on in the Google Home app. 

 

We hope this table is a helpful guide as you decide if a battery or wired Nest camera or doorbell is right for you. And to help you think through options, we also wanted to provide a few more announcements related to the different battery and wired offerings.

  • Personalizing the battery and camera experience: There are multiple ways to optimize battery life for your specific home. And next year, we will be adding ways to make it easier to customize your battery settings, plus a camera scheduling option so you have additional controls for when your cameras are on or off.
  • Solar panel accessory: Before the end of the year, we’ll offer a solar panel for Nest Cam (battery) and Nest Doorbell (battery), so you can continue benefiting from the flexibility of a battery device without having to recharge. Due to variations in weather, a solar panel will not accommodate 24/7 continuous video history recording.

 And if you’re interested in a wired solution, we’re excited to share these updates with you:

  • Wired bundles: For customers who would like to enjoy the benefits of a wired Nest camera experience, we'll be making that even more affordable by offering our 5 meter and 10 meter outdoor weatherproof cables at a discount of 50% off for a limited time*. This promotion will be available in the U.S. and Canada.
  • A new adapter: Soon, we’ll launch a Power over Ethernet adapter for Nest Cam (battery). 
  • A smarter floodlight: In October, we will be offering our new Nest Cam with floodlight, which offers a wired camera solution that replaces an existing wired outdoor light or floodlight. 
  • A next gen hardwired doorbell: We continue to be committed to the hardwired doorbell space and plan to offer a 2nd generation of our Nest Doorbell (wired) in 2022. This will enable 24/7 continuous video history (with a Nest Aware subscription). And this product will be compatible with the Google Home app.

Thanks again for your continued feedback, and as always please share questions and comments here!

Rachel

4 Comments
CaptainJeff
Community Member

I wanted to buy a Nest battery operated camera as part of my other cameras, but I stumbled upon the GM blog saying it won't work.  I was actually complaining about my Nest Learning Thermostat failing (after 5 months).   It's criminal to rope people into buying a product and not telling them that it won't work with the Nest App.  You should be ashamed of yourself!

I have a problem happening right now.  Installed Nest Learning on 1 April.  Ran heat through May, then AC and Heat into June until we went to straight AC for summer.  Multizone heating system (forced hot water) with two Nest E's on other zones.  Testing heating system from Nest Learning on 6 Oct.  Taco box just kept clicking.  Thermostat showing N72 error (no power to Rh).  It's not true.  You will see other posts about this across the web.  Called heating company for PM b/c I assumed the problem was with boiler.  First thing tech said when he arrived was "you have a Nest thermostat, correct?".  He performed troubleshooting to see if it was the Nest or the boiler (W to Rh wire - triggered heat).  Notified Google and they sent me new baseplate (arrived last night 10-28 and installed - no fix.  Same exact issues).  Contacted them again this morning (10-29) and just went through 2 hours of painful chat troubleshooting with totally useless reps (Madison and then Enzo).  I'm done with having a teenager in their basement ask me if my house is powered and calling it support/troubleshooting.  This N72 error code with the Nest Learning Thermostat is well documented in your community rooms, and I'm sure that it's well documented behind your walls of secrecy.  I haven't found 1 posting where someone with the issue got it resolved through your support network.  The solution was to eat the $250 purchase and buy something else.  Well, I'm not going away.  I WANT MY PROBLEM FIXED NOW!!!!!  23 DAYS WITHOUT HEAT IS CRIMINAL.  FIX IT!

hiltzd
Community Member

Wonderful table!  Could you expand it to include the use of the Google Home Mini as a doorbell chime? 

My question is:  I have the Nest Hello doorbell (wired) -- can I use the Mini as a chime with it? 

It appears I can't connect this wired doorbell to the Google Home app, which I think is needed to connect the Mini as a Nest doorbell chime...as shown in this image.  Thank you!

 

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SAMSummers
Community Member

I bought 2x 3 packs of the Google Nest Cameras to replace my Arlo. Once installed, I realised that there is no way to add a schedule/routines to these cameras. As my cameras are facing high traffic areas, the battery doesn't even last a full week. I was hoping to add a schedule eg 12am to 6am when there shouldn't be any foot traffic. For a battery camera, you would think it would have a schedule. Very disappointed and looking for another way to replace these cameras. The battery version is only good if it's facing a brick wall or you live in a remote location where you get low to none foot traffic. Very disappointed with these cameras and feeling like I've made a big mistake with 6 cameras!

BrandonLaMontCo
Community Member

Community Support  it really depends on the development of electricity.. on some small scale experiments, we have proven the wireless transmission of electricity.. see the following @GoogleNestTeam  Wireless Energy   Theory Or Research