Change personal routines to household routines

[PBusardo]

I believe this topic has been brought up, but it needs to be brought up again. 

When Google home changed, ALL of my routines became "Personal" routines.  I need to be able to change these to "Household" routines, for TWO reasons...

1) So that others can use the routines

2) So that the routines can be added to the Pixel Home Favorites list which will only see "Household" routines. 

And no, I will not take all the time required to recreate all of my perfectly working routines when a simple toggle switch or drag and drop can be implemented to change the routines to the "Household" category.  

Just one of the problems I'm having with the new Pixel tablet and dock.  Don't get me started that some of my routines will not work when the tablet is locked.

What a PITFA.  FIX IT!!!!!  (please). 

[joshms]

Same problem.  This would take someone 15 minutes to address, it’s so basic.  We just need to be able to move a routine from personal to household. 

Hey Google, Be Better… 

[cazzamaphone]

I have the same problem. Why is duplicating or moving a routine seem so simple yet there is no functionality for it, and I have to manually re-create every single step in every single routine I have. 

[JR8b]

How about on top of that because they added canned routines you can't create your own Home routine to do similar actions. For example, Bedtime is in the Personal Routine section. It's action has "Good night" within it. You can't create a home routine that says "Good night" because it says that action already exists. And you cannot delete the personal routine. So even if I wanted to create that Home routine from scratch, I can't. Does Google have any non-canned responses for that?

Seriously some major overhaul needs done with this coding. This is the most basic of all home automation. 

[syaqattaq90]

EXACTLY THIS! My Household Routine can't be activated with "Good night" because I have a DISABLED Personal Routine that has the "Good night" starter as a default that CANNOT BE DELETED!

So now I have to go into everyone's Google profile just to set up a Good Night routine that has been working perfectly for everyone before this? Also, now I have to create a Google account for everyone just so that they can have a Good Night routine in the house. Pfft.

[Gamecox23]

It won’t even allow me to do that because GOOD NIGHT is being used on my routine. This is INFURIATING. 

[Sonicflood]

Guys, You've been communicating with a bot with an alias named "Juni"! Instead of the canned statement of providing feedback, that's what the hell this group should be for. If it were a live person, they themselves should provide the feedback to the proper internal Google team, based on an aggregation of all the issues and responses provided.

I've moved on from Google Home to Home Assistant and am far happier! I took each routine, one by one and recreated them in Home Assistant while adding new capabilities and compatibilities that just don't exist in Google Home. Google is a little too late with the script editor. They're so focused on trying to catch up to other companies with their own assistant AI model, that they're neglecting their existing customers and products. I urge each and every one of you to check out Home Assistant as it's open source (free), and will work with almost every device and protocol out there. Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Zigbee, Z-Wave, Thread, Matter, you name it and it works! There's even support for Homekit, even if you don't own Apple products!  It brings together all the protocols and devices. It works with all the current voice assistants, Google, Alexa, Siri and they've also developed their own local voice assistant that doesn't rely on the cloud! The developers take feedback and ideas seriously and there are monthly updates (1st Wednesday of every month) with many new features added. You also have a true community of LIVE support, unlike the deaf ears of Google chatbots! Good riddance to Google Home! You've lost me and my wallet!

[RichTrelo]

Does Home Assistant work with the Google Nest Mini? I have a couple and would ideally like to keep using them for voice commands.

[Sonicflood]

Yes, it works with the Google Nest mini. I've got three of them and a Google Nest Hub integrated and I'm using them for voice commands and custom responses. 

[Triad3k]

It’s supposed to, but it’s incredibly hot and miss. Voice recognition has gone backwards over time, and the number of times it responds to “hey google” then is unable to ‘hear’ a single word, and eventually gives up listening is also ever-increasing.

I’ve  bought no additional Google devices since this issue stated more than a year ago as I have no faith it’ll get better, and I don’t want to waste even more money.

now seriously considering swapping everything for Amazon/Alexa products.

#disappointing

[Lovenhatealpha]

I am sorry. I have been using HOME ASSISTANT on a HubMax and iphone. We are having completely different experiences. It has all the same problems of HOME. its unresponsive. it offers the weakest of integrations with "Works with Google". I have many different smart lights and devices from LG, Roku, Sony, Hue, GE Cync, Wyze, Govee..."Works with Google" means, I can turn them on and off and change to standard colors and maybe cast a youtube video...Woohoo. Also back to the Household vs. Personal...my 2 cents...I would think the idea of developing and perfecting a personal routine then sharing with the Household would be a common "developer" protocol. But as we can see with all Alphabet products, testing in production is their preferred model, which would be fine if it were all "free" software. it is not, we are all paying customers yet treated like "alpha"/"beta" customers...these are not trivial investments. I am in for a couple grand$ in home automation toys...

[DarkPro]

HEY GOOGLE, YOU NEED TO FIX THIS ISSUE ASAP!

[Awex14]

I don't want to be rude here, but this is a little ridiculous. I'm a developer myself and this kind of thing should not be hard to implement. It should take one dev a day. To add a UI element to toggle a property. Unless y'all implemented it in a really hacky way, I guess. But seriously... this is a pain. The routines take an unreasonably long time to set up anyways. And that's without having to do it twice. And all from a phone, not even a browser. 

[Juni]

Hi folks,

We're glad to hear you're all interested in this! We don't have anything else to share right now, but stay tuned for more news and updates. Right now, the best thing to do is to submit feedback using the link provided in this thread.

Thanks,

Juni

[joshms]

What exactly is the point in sharing feedback when the team receiving it can’t even acknowledge that there is a deficiency here?  

“Nothing to share” - great, can someone acknowledge they at least agree this is a stupid problem? 

[Pilch]

I suggest you get a supervisor.  Your comments are making this worse. 

[Triad3k]

Awful response.

its getting worse as broadcasts have now lost the ability to broadcast the user’s voice recording, instead it tries to recognise the speech, and broadcasts the message in Google’s robot voice with errors every time, and you’ve no idea who sent the broadcast.

half the devices don’t even play broadcasts either.

sort it out, or at least acknowledge there’s an issue and look into it!!

[Super_paulie]

seriously, thats your response??! I hope you dont get paid by Google for this sort of assistance.

[prupil]

It's that bad, you should just roll back your releases about a year.

[TheGRLs]

Wow! The future is here...much of the rest of our lives will be spent talking requesting, asking, pleading, and begging to polite AI representatives to please fix things that are screwed up. The implications are enormous and sometimes involve thousands of dollars or whether you freeze to death. From double charging and/or double automatic payments on utlities, cars, mortgages, credit cards, I must spend 10 or more hours a week trying to reach a human being to fix one technological problem or another. How do people manage? I'm semi-retired and work from home so sometimes I must devote half a day to get the bank, or utility company, or insurance company, or mortgage company...et cetera... to correct my account. There has never been a human being that works for Google in this conversation or at least not one that can make any difference. We're conversing inside of a vacuum. No "i" in the AI here.

[RichTrelo]

Maybe if we ask the bot very nicely, it will close the thread.

[TheGRLs]

LOL (Laughing On Line)! 

[Stephaos]

12.04.2024 and this issue is still not fixed?
Maybe it was the wrong decision to buy Google Smart Home products...

[Moremorg]

I never comment on things but this issue is frustrating enough that I want to add to our hopeful crowdsourcing of priorities. A fix to seems low effort and high impact…aka a slam dunk for any engineering team. 

[mwstephens]

Hey Google!!! Anybody there? 

Adding to the calls for help in case any human actually reads this... This is a material break with considerable customer impact and should be prioritized for immediate resolution!

[GuyCooper]

It's mind boggling that Google would simply cast us aside and ignore us.  It's quite clear that this change negatively impacted a LOT of people, yet Google seems they couldn't care less. I have a routine with 53 actions, and the best you can do is tell me to trash it and spend a couple of hours recreating it?  Hello?  Amazon?... 

[MyStuffBreaks]

Jumping onboard. Please fix this 

[Sunshine23]

Any update on this issue?????

[syaqattaq90]

I signed up just to +1 this thread. I just started to look into my mom's complain of our usually working Good Night routine not working in recent months 'cos y'all moved the Good Night routine to my personal routine. And I can't setup a household routine that is triggered by saying Good Night as it is assigned to a Personal Routinr THAT IS DISABLED, AND THAT THE "GOOD NIGHT" STARTER CANNOT BE REMOVED! WHAT?!

[WhateverWhereve]

I also signed up just to follow and +1 this thread. Our previously well working routines now can no longer be activated by all members of our family. So frustrating!

Hey Google, is anyone actually listening???

[HyperNeon]

Seriously Google? Can you just fix this already? Why would you knowingly release a feature that was going to break everyone's routines? This is so frustrating and it's been months!

[Jfox5]

I also need that feature !!!

[Jay-D]

A once great company is now an embarrassment. Remember how long Google tried to tell us that we didn't need a toggle switch to temporarily disable routines, this is almost as ridiculous!! I have about 100 routines. It would take days to remake them. Even if I wished to, I have no assurance that you won't break them again the next day. This isn't a "feature request" or an new idea. THIS IS ABOUT FIXING A BUG THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE IDENTIFIED INTERNALLY WITHOUT OUR HELP! This is a mistake that Google made, should be appologizing profusely for, and immediately correcting.

If you work for Google and are reading this I hope that you are not proud of the job you do. If you took any pride in your work, or had the slightest idea what the word "initiative" means you would take it upon yourself to spearhead this issue. Sadly, if an employee is reading this, I'm certain that they are just a mechanic with nothing but technical skills. Be assertive and question authority. otherwise you will be minding the message boards for the rest of your life. Be better. 

[mluansing]

Any update on this? Not recreating 20+ personal automations for household. Would love a quick swap feature.

[MartinCop]

Exactly. This should be smooth and easy thing to do. Instead of expecting the user to work out this one by one. Why there are so many things so sloooow with Google?

[teebeeninetea4]

This really needs to be updated!!

The routines/automations that I need the whole household to be able to access, such as “good morning” etc are so personalised that they do different things for each of us, and I can’t even create a new household automation for that because the phrase is already in use, and it won’t let me delete the phrase! So let me make it a household automation!

A simple toggle switch or drag and drop would be the easiest way. Google needs to work on this asap 

[Mackeyuk]

Same issue here. Please fix it.

[Feet]

This inability to reclass routines is insane. Do better google 

[Redhead_pt]

6 months later and still no solution. What a sad response from Google on this. 

[AustinSpomer]

Google has become such a joke. How is this even an issue to begin with? There's literally a "copy" feature, yet no way to port over the routine from personal to household?

[nomadMikZ]

Oh, where's the copy feature? I sometimes want to copy routines and make small differences, and I keep having to start from scratch and do it manually. Thanks.