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Can I install a nest thermostat on a mix of standard and thin wires?

azinicus
Community Member

I'm thinking the answer is no, but would it be possible to add a Nest thermostat to the attached wiring? It has small low voltage wires on G, W, Y, and RC, but a standard wire for C and R. This is a central heat/cooling unit on the roof. See image. Thank you in advance!

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johnCNA
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Your wiring reminds me of my own system.  I have an older house that did not have central air conditioning when built.  Later when A/C was added, they ran an extra 2-wire thermostat line and changed out the thermostat for a model that supported heat and cooling.  It looks like in your situation they cheaped out and just used stranded speaker wire for those extra 2 connections instead of the proper smaller-gauge solid wire.  The heavier stranded wire will not fit into the Nest terminal connectors.  But you can make this work simply by adding some short 4"-6" pigtails with smaller gauge solid wire.  Just attach them to the stranded wires with wire nuts and shove that part back into the wall, leaving just the solid pigtails coming through to connect to the Nest.

The photo is confusing, because one of the speaker wires connects to 'C' and it looks like the other connection is to R.  Then you have a red wire going to Rc which is jumpered to R as well.   It would appear that either the extra speaker wire going to R or the red wire going to Rc is redundant.  Or you might have something unusual in the setup there.  If it were me, I'd pull the door off the furnace to see where that extra speaker wire and the red wire are going.

azinicus
Community Member

Thanks, I actually tried exactly that, but I think my Nest unit's battery is dead it keeps saying "delayed until..." and delays 3 minutes and doesn't actually start the heat/fan. It also says it doesn't detect any power to the G wire. So there might actually be some issue with my refrigerated air unit, so I'm having a professional come take a look.

Thanks for the prompt response!

azinicus
Community Member

So this ultimately turned out to be improper voltage on the common wire which burned out the old thermostat and caused the Nest to malfunction. The service pro simply added a new common on the refrigerated air unit on the roof using the existing blue wire that was previously not used, and we dumped the thick stereo cable wires and just left it capped in the wall. Everything works great now on the Nest.

Jacevedo
Community Member

How did you go about hiring a service pro? I’m debating between using the links for OnTech or looking for a local contractor to help fix my wiring issues 

I have a heater/AC company that I used for other services for a few years, and they were able to get on the roof and figure it all out for me, though it did cost me $200.

MelbaDT
Community Specialist
Community Specialist

Hey folks, 

 

Thanks for your suggestion, johnCNA. 

 

@azinicus, thanks for posting and for keeping us in the loop about what you've done to resolve this. We're glad to hear that your Nest thermostat is working as it should with your system. Feel free to reach out again should you need more help, we'll always be here. 

 

@Jacevedo, either a local HVAC technician or our installation partners, OnTech would do. 

 

Best, 

Melba